I’ve only used push-to-connects for exposed spots or temporary fixes, mostly because I’m always worried about what’s happening behind the drywall where you can’t see if something’s starting to weep.
I totally get that. I tried using push-fits behind a bathroom wall once, but honestly, I kept thinking about what could be happening back there. Ended up pulling it all out and sweating copper instead—took longer, but like you said, peace of mind matters. As for supports, I used those plastic PEX clips every couple feet, just in case. Haven’t had any hard water issues yet, but I do wonder if that’s just luck or good seals.
I hear you on the push-fits—honestly, I just don’t trust them for anything long-term behind walls. I know they’re rated for it, but sweating copper or even crimping PEX feels way more reliable. Those PEX clips are a good call, though. As for hard water, I think seals can only do so much... eventually minerals will find a way if they’re going to. Maybe it’s worth checking your water hardness and adding a filter if you’re worried?
As for hard water, I think seals can only do so much... eventually minerals will find a way if they’re going to. Maybe it’s worth checking your water hardness and adding a filter if you’re worried?
That’s my worry too—hard water seems like it always wins in the end. Have you looked into any eco-friendly filtration options? I’ve been debating between a salt-free softener and just sticking with a basic sediment filter. Not sure which is better long-term for both the pipes and the planet. Also, does anyone else feel like sweating copper is almost meditative, or is that just me?
Salt-free softeners get hyped, but honestly, they don’t actually remove minerals—they just try to keep them from sticking. If you’ve got serious hardness, a basic sediment filter won’t cut it either. I’ve seen more long-term success with traditional softeners, even if they’re not the greenest. And yeah, sweating copper is weirdly calming... until you burn your fingers.
Salt-free softeners get hyped, but honestly, they don’t actually remove minerals—they just try to keep them from sticking.
Yeah, that’s spot on. I’ve pulled apart a few “salt-free” setups after years in service and the scale buildup was still there, just maybe a bit less crusty. Traditional softeners are more work, but they actually get the job done if your water’s really hard. Sediment filters are great for sand or rust, but they’re not touching calcium or magnesium. And sweating copper—totally agree, it’s almost meditative until you slip and end up with a nice little burn. Been there more times than I’d like to admit...
